Got Kuchen?

Got Kuchen

Got Kuchen

By Susie Wickman at Genealogy Journey

Got Kuchen?

I’ve been asked for my mother’s Kuchen recipe. Kuchen is the German word for cake. But it is not cake as I think of it. It is more of a pie. Yet not pie in that it has a bread crust. I wrote about it previously in my Cousin Reunion post.

Originally, at our house, Kuchen had a sweet crust. But I think my mom figured out pretty quick that she didn’t want to make that sweet bread from scratch each time. Eventually, she substituted frozen Rhodes bread dough. I really prefer that as I don’t like it as sweet. Don’t get me wrong, I like my sweets. Just in their place. I have cousins that still use the sweet dough recipe.

Mom had a couple of fruit flavors. By far, my favorites are prune and cheese. Don’t let the prune scare you off. It is truly amazing.

One of the considerations in these recipes is that back in the day they didn’t use recipes. So, what I had to do was follow my mom around and write stuff down. Of course, every time she made it a little different. So, between prune and cheese Kuchen, I have six different recipes in my recipe box. And not a single one spells it out exactly how to do it. But I figure it gives me a lot of leeway for errors.

Basically, these recipes call for the dough, the custard, and the filling. The filling might be the prune or cheese flavor. I also remember her making peach Kuchen, but I don’t have that recipe.

I’ve included two different versions for you to experiment with.

Crust: Rhodes or other frozen bread dough, thawed. Let it rise, then roll it thin. Once it’s rolled, fill it quickly so it doesn’t rise again. Out of one loaf of frozen bread dough, you can make anywhere from 2-4 crusts, depending on how thin you like it. It’s like pizza crust. Do you like regular, thin or thick? I think mom made 3 each 8-9” pies per loaf.

Custard: This is supposed to make about 2 cups of liquid, enough for 3 small pies. Small meaning that it doesn’t fill the pie to the top, but maybe half full.

¾ c. sour or sweet cream
3 eggs, beaten
Vanilla
¾ c. sugar (reserve some to sprinkle on top)
Salt

Or, another recipe calls for:
1 pint of cream
1 c. of milk (half-and-half or cream OK)
1 c. sugar
4 eggs, beaten
Dash salt
2 Tbl cornstarch to thicken (add with sugar to avoid lumping)
This would make 5 small pies or maybe 3 fuller pies.

Either of these could be slow cooked until thickened, stirring constantly. This would speed up the baking time.

Cheese Kuchen:
Add 3-4 Tbl egg mix in each pie
1 c. cottage cheese
½ c. egg mixture on top
Sprinkle with sugar and cinnamon. Bake right away in greased pie pan. 350 degrees, 25-30 minutes or until edges are brown. You need to sprinkle the sugar and cinnamon on the pies before baking. It can leave an unpleasant gritty texture on the pie if you do it afterward.

Cooked prunes: Pit prunes and cut in half. Put in saucepan with water to cover. Bring to a boil. Reduce heat. Cover. Cook about 20 minutes, until prunes swell. Drain.

cooking prunes

Prune Kuchen:
Add 3-4 Tbl egg mixture in each pie
Add about 1 c. of prune mixture on top
Top it with another ½ c. of the egg mixture
Sprinkle with cinnamon and sugar to taste.

All of that was just interpreting my ‘almost’ recipes. Then my daughter and I got together and decided to actually make kuchen. The funny story about this is that my daughter kept claiming she’d never had it before and I was very sure I had made it for both my girls while they were growing up. We were texting to make plans. Apparently, she had never seen the word in print. While I was typing kuchen (kook ‘en), she was reading kuchen (kutch ‘en). We had a good chuckle when we figured it out.

After combining recipes, this is the recipe used during the actual Kuchen making event (this was a birthday party event for a couple members of the family):

2 c. heavy whipping cream
1 c. sour cream
4 eggs
¾ c. sugar
½ tsp vanilla
Pinch salt

When shopping for the bread dough, I could not find loaves. I could only find rolls. So my intention was to thaw the dough so it would grow together and become a large amount of dough and not individual rolls. The dough was sitting in store packaging on the counter. I planned to thaw it overnight and we would cook it the next morning. My sister was up overnight and saw that it had thawed and risen and threatened to explode from the bag. She ended up poking holes in the bags so they wouldn’t explode. (My niece at one time had that wonderful experience).

 

German kuchen

When I got to my daughter’s house, we cut open one bag at a time and made one large loaf out of it. My thrusters must not have all been working at the same time because I knew a bag of bread dough had more than one loaf in it, but it just didn’t occur to me. So, reading the directions, we divided the loaf into 3 parts for 3 pies, rolled it out and put it in the pie pans.

The recipe calls for greasing the pans. However, having done that, the dough would not stick to the sides of the pie pan. It kept collapsing/shrinking back into the bottom of the dish. At one point I was actually punching it as if I were wearing a boxing glove. I remember thinking maybe I could beat it into submission.

We finally worked out a plan to ‘beat it down’ and then as quickly as possible add the filling. Well, at least it was in the pan!

After placing pies in the oven, we noticed they kept growing. There was A LOT OF DOUGH. We finally realized that there was a problem with her oven at that temperature and it wasn’t cooking the pies fast enough. It was acting like a huge warming oven raising the dough! THERE WAS A LOT OF DOUGH!!! We finally figured out to turn the oven up.

cheese kuchen
Slice of Cheese Kuchen

 

I ended up not cooking the custard, so it took quite a bit longer to cook.

Well, it all turned out well. At the birthday event, everyone ate until they were stuffed. Some of the comments made at the time:

“I’m kuchening” (going back for 3rds)

They suggested the title of this post be: It takes a village to bake a Kuchen.

“Cook the custard”

Concerning the last piece of kucken in the pan, “I was going to cut it in half, and then thought, that’s stupid”.

“The yeast is not done rising. It’s growing in my stomach.”

“Thank God I’m wearing my elastic waist skirt.” Two of the girls changed into elastic waist skirts during the event to feel more comfortable. One just wore a long dress, to begin with, in anticipation of the eating.

After eating more than one piece, I felt thirsty but was scared to drink because I thought it would make the bread in my stomach expand.

prune kuchen
Slice of Prune Kuchen

 

In spite of it all, it tasted wonderful. Some foods bring back the memories of comfort foods from home and this is one of them for us. That is what I meant by a lot of room for errors.

The final joke for this story happened months later. I happened to be grocery shopping and found frozen Rhodes bread loaves in the freezer. They came FIVE loaves in a bag. I had divided that into 3 pie pans instead of one loaf divided between 3 pie pans. We are still laughing over that one.

As a bonus, I will also share the very simple fleishkuchen recipe with you. It is basically a meat cake (pie). Chunks of meat including generous portions of fat are fried well and then baked on the bread crust.

fleishkuchen

Since I didn’t have a piece of meat, I just bought a ham slice and cut it up and fried it.

 

I was told by my siblings that mom’s chunks of meat were larger and fattier.

 

 

fleishkuchen
Slice of Fleishkuchen

 

It was all delicious!

 

making kuchen

If you decide to give this a try, let me know how it turned out for you.

Happy Kuchening!

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8 Comments

  1. I just made 18 Kuchens two weeks ago, some I put peaches in. I froze most but we have ate a lot already! They are so good!

    • Susie

      Marion, thanks for stopping by!. Besides peach, what flavors do you make? What is your favorite? s

  2. Roxanne Henke

    Prune kuchen is my favorite!! (Can’t stand cottage-cheese kuchen…got sick on it once as a kid and have never had the nerve to try it, again.) You can buy all kinds of kuchen flavors at the store here in Wishek. Prune/peach/apple/rhubarb/blueberry…I’m probably forgetting about half-a-dozen others. I guess we kind of take it for granted as we can pick it up anytime we want…usually, if we have company for an easy dessert.

    • Susie

      Hi Roxy. I had no idea you could buy kuchen in the store. That’s fabulous. I hope its the good stuff. Thanks for stopping by.

      • Roxanne Henke

        It is “the good stuff.” Prune is my fav, but blueberry has become a close second.

    • My Mom used to make the cottage cheese Kuchen and then put cooked prunes in the center. We just loved it. It was savory and sweet. I sure wish I had gotten her recipe.

      • Susie

        Hi Nancy. Thanks for stopping by. I love cheese kuchen but I think prune is my favorite. I hadn’t thought of combining them. It sounds delicious.

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